今天在網上看香港報紙,才知道港台有個電視節目叫《窮富翁大作戰》,已做到第二輯。根據港台的網頁,該節目「以真人騷方式,請來上市公司行政總裁、年青專業人士、靚女模特兒、幸福少奶奶渡過約一星期的貧窮生活,嘗試露宿街頭、瞓板間房、倒垃圾、執紙皮…」。
在報紙報導的這一集,接受「挑戰」的有錢人包括「含金鎖匙出世的新民黨副主席田北辰」。他做了三日兩夜掃街清潔工,時薪25元;對於這樣低薪,他說:「如果你俾22元一個鐘,我真係搞唔掂,27、28元才猛猛緊。」他還語重心長加上一問:「到底有冇公義呢?我好 wonder。」(案:仲駛 wonder?係人都知冇啦!)還有,田北辰「放工」後要住在15平方呎的籠屋,令他慨嘆那「不是人住的」(案:不知他認為人住的地方應該是怎樣的?)。
這真是個無聊之極的節目。港台的網頁說觀眾在節目上可以看到參與者能否「憑藉他們的富人智慧,挑戰香港貧富懸殊的困局」,實在不知所謂;過兩三天窮人的生活,捱過了,就算是挑戰香港貧富懸殊的困局?開玩笑!
或說讓這些有錢人體驗一下窮人的生活,免得他們不知人間何世,那未嘗不是一件好事,然而,他們真的能體驗到嗎?窮人的生活,不是捱三兩天的苦;窮的難捱,不只是因為今天吃不飽穿不暖,今天要住籠屋,今天病了沒錢看醫生,而是因為這樣的日子好像綿綿無盡,時刻要擔心明天可能沒錢應付這、沒錢應付那,生活有很大的壓迫感。除非是特別豁達的人,否則很難長期貧困而沒有壓迫感;這種心理狀態,可說是窮人生活的一部份,而只捱兩三天窮人的苦,是不會令人進入這種心理狀態的。
田北辰掃街住籠屋的時候,當然知道那只是兩三天的事,知道他能享受的大宅名車、佳餚美酒、暖枕高床並沒有消失,因此,他不可能經驗到窮人的生活壓迫感;如果這也算是體驗了窮人的生活,那麼,假如你玩過兩三次高卡車,也可以振振有詞向人說自己有賽車經驗了。
其實,港台為甚麼不反之而行,製作《富窮人大作戰》,安排一些窮人去「體驗」幾天有錢佬的生活?難道是因為窮人憑藉他們的窮人智慧,是挑戰不了香港貧富懸殊的困局的?
>港台為甚麼不反之而行,製作《富窮人大作戰》,
回覆刪除因為窮人好蝦嘛!班上層社會啲人如果聽到要俾班三唔識七嘅社會底層走去用自己間屋同架車幾日,唔耍手拎頭就奇囉~
睇左個短片,認同你的講法,
CYC,
回覆刪除其實主要是沒有人喜歡看不知名的窮人。
前年看第一輯的時候,只覺得不知所謂。這算甚麼?讓富人體驗那幾天的貧窮生活,究竟港台意圖得到甚麼結果!
回覆刪除上星期看報導知道第二輯出街了,真的有點火,想即時寫點東西,回頭再想,還是決定不寫了,因為不想為他們做宣傳。
>其實主要是沒有人喜歡看不知名的窮人。
回覆刪除其實如果我係裡面一個「被參與」的窮人,我都會覺得這是一種羞辱。
呢啲過家家節目,唔叫埋亞權權同唐唐一齊嚟玩,真係無咩意義無咩癮
hmmm ... not quite sure if you guys are a bit too negative ...
回覆刪除sure, after the program, nothing crazy, nothing big is gonna happen ... you won't turn hell into heaven after just a tv program ...
but after the last episode, some of the rich guys did change ... one gave up his ceo job and takes up some charitable work ... the other one -- a rich girl -- does volunteer to help out some unfortunate kids (these were mentioned in the current episode) ...
you won't be able to build rome in one day ... i think this program is at least making -- or hoping to make -- an attempt to change ...
just my 2-cent ...
by the way, i did watch the whole 30-minute tv episode in hk ... maybe the feeling is a bit different from reading it thru newspaper ...
回覆刪除咁啱我之前都鬧過.
回覆刪除http://williamsin.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-post_19.html
不過, 港台祇是模仿 BBC 做野啫, 這些節目好耐之前在英國都玩過下.
第一輯播出時,我也覺得這個節目很虛偽,好像七日和尚之類,要讓有錢人良心贖罪嗎?
回覆刪除不過,看了第二輯首集的回顧,見到有些參與者的人生確實因此而改變(如上面提及那個CEO),可見那幾天的經歷(縱使不能百分百體會窮人的感受)對他們還是蠻震憾的。
話說回來,我覺得這一輯的一個失敗之處是找田北辰來參加。田氏欲參選之心,路人皆見。給他上這個節目,不免予人借公帑免費政治宣傳、政治洗底(洗自由黨之底)之嫌。
CYC,
回覆刪除//唔叫埋亞權權同唐唐一齊嚟玩,真係無咩意義無咩癮//
- 係就我都會睇呀!
//but after the last episode, some of the rich guys did change ... one gave up his ceo job and takes up some charitable work ... the other one -- a rich girl -- does volunteer to help out some unfortunate kids (these were mentioned in the current episode) ...//
回覆刪除- I won't say nothing good could come out of it, but I stand by my overall judgment of the program.
//i think this program is at least making -- or hoping to make -- an attempt to change ...//
- I am not sure that's their motivation.
//by the way, i did watch the whole 30-minute tv episode in hk ... maybe the feeling is a bit different from reading it thru newspaper ...//
回覆刪除- Maybe.
willsin,
回覆刪除//咁啱我之前都鬧過.
http://williamsin.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-post_19.html//
- 哎呀,唔覺意執咗你口水尾!
//不過, 港台祇是模仿 BBC 做野啫, 這些節目好耐之前在英國都玩過下.//
- 你之前鬧得仲勁過我喎!
Meshi,
回覆刪除//不過,看了第二輯首集的回顧,見到有些參與者的人生確實因此而改變(如上面提及那個CEO),可見那幾天的經歷(縱使不能百分百體會窮人的感受)對他們還是蠻震憾的。//
- 這是好事,但就算是這點,也還是以那些富人為中心,窮人只是佈景。
//話說回來,我覺得這一輯的一個失敗之處是找田北辰來參加。田氏欲參選之心,路人皆見。給他上這個節目,不免予人借公帑免費政治宣傳、政治洗底(洗自由黨之底)之嫌。//
- 同意之極。
xiao zhu,
回覆刪除//前年看第一輯的時候,只覺得不知所謂。這算甚麼?讓富人體驗那幾天的貧窮生活,究竟港台意圖得到甚麼結果!//
- 應該有人喜歡看這節目,否則港台不會製作第二輯。
"還有,田北辰「放工」後要住在15平方呎的籠屋,令他慨嘆那「不是人住的」(案:不知他認為人住的地方應該是怎樣的?)。"
回覆刪除It reminds me of the time during electioneering for the first Governor of HK SAR, when one of the candidates, a retired(?) judge tried a publicity stunt staying in a 籠屋 (wonder what's the correct English term for this?) for a few days, to show how he empathised with the poor and downtrodden in HK society. Now I was still pretty young at the time (and was only back in HK for a summer job and to "witness history"), and I remember wanting the judge to do well (because of the whole upholding the rule-of-law thing post-1997), but I felt even then that he was only shooting himself in the foot with such ill-advised publicity. (I felt he was being sincere in his attempt to understand what life's like for those living under the poverty line, but it could so easily be seen as superficial and cynical electioneering, and indeed it was). And of course, in the end, we had a businessman candidate succeeding as the first Governor instead (and all because of a handshake from the leader of CCP)...
That said I do agree that 田北辰's turn in the current programme is blatantly cynical.
i guess no matter what they do, you guys will still criticize ...
回覆刪除well, if they so chose not to do anything, you guys will still criticize their non-action ...
(they = rthk and / or those rich guys ...)
isn't this some form of 仇富 as well :-) ?!
maybe a better program is to have some 叫獸沿街叫售 their ideas on how to made a better program :-) ...
//i guess no matter what they do, you guys will still criticize ... //
回覆刪除- You focused on the fact that I criticized the program but not the reasons I gave for criticizing it. That's not a fair response; you should have responded to those reasons.
//isn't this some form of 仇富 as well :-) ?!//
- I don't think so. Suppose RTHK produced a program in which they arranged for some illiterates to "attend" Harvard for a week so that these people could "experience" the best university education, and I criticized the program for reasons analogous to those I gave in my post, would you say I hate illiterates?
未免太負面了一點吧?
回覆刪除當然,本質上這是一個「Show」,一開始做的時候就不是以新聞、紀錄片的角度去製作這個節目的。說一個「Show」像「Show」,那其實我們想要這個「Show」像甚麼?
再者,最好當然是讓富人真正體味窮人困局(如真的將他「打成」窮人),但囿於節目資源、實際情況所限,現在的體驗已是可能的範圍內走得最遠的了。
相比之下,難道我們寧願富人連這個「Show」也不做,以他們去"Citysuper"當成去街市之類的「人生經驗」來對社會的問題指指點點嗎?有這短短數天的經驗,怎看也比全無經驗要好吧?
問題是比較的基礎(baseline)是甚麼, 以及為何要與更差的狀況比較.
回覆刪除按這種邏輯, 癲佬殺十個人都是好事, 因為他不是殺一百個. 富人做丁事小事都值得歌頌, 因為好過唔做.
//其實,港台為甚麼不反之而行,製作《富窮人大作戰》,安排一些窮人去「體驗」幾天有錢佬的生活?難道是因為窮人憑藉他們的窮人智慧,是挑戰不了香港貧富懸殊的困局的?//
回覆刪除Respectfully disagree. After they have experienced the rich's life for a few days, they will either gain the spirit to work hard to climb up the social ladder, or lose the will to work hard, and in extreme case, the will to live. In today’s society, I think the latter will outnumber the former.
Anyway, your quality blog entries make me a frequent visitor here. My compliments to you.
結果是否完全沒有得着?讓富人想一想窮人的處境,即使轉眼就忘掉,即使十個只有一個因這經驗做半件有意義的事,也算有得着吧。
回覆刪除但,這無損制作人和參加的貴人的一些hypocrisy,也無減對那些曾經或正在過着又窮又處在最低層的人的諷刺。
偽善的人有著數呀,對住自己一個人偽善例外,後者是心病。
回覆刪除to willsin,
回覆刪除//富人做丁事小事都值得歌頌, 因為好過唔做.//
maybe i am stupid or simple or naive or what, after watching the whole program, it ain't give me no impression of "歌頌" those rich guys ... i don't think rthk wants to "歌頌" those rich guys at all ...
did you "過度閱讀" the program :-) ???
比起那些明星仔到發展中地區影三日相, 回來對娛記說要做人要感恩, 老實講, 港台這節目好多了.
回覆刪除節目的重點是, 至少我相信是這樣的, 如果你只有窮人的資源, 在香港, 你註定無發圍. 亦因此節目會為他們"偽造"履歷, 又不容許他們自己帶錢.
並不是為田北.或所謂"富人"辯護,老實說,住小居屋的我,見到籠屋的環境,也會覺得"唔係人住".當然,如果你對着籠屋居民這樣說,又是另一回事.
香港社會已經好分化, 不要說富人,一般勉強算做中產的人,對低下階層的了解,只限於報紙報道. 這個節目至少呈現到真實一面. (當然,你可以繼續鞭撻它偽善, 做節目有很多方法, 但這年頭不搞些gimmick,誰耐煩看你的新聞紀錄?)
說到"真實一面",記得上輯有個有錢女到新移民家的板間房住一星期,在茶餐廳企足成日,有時間則教那兒子讀書, 四五年級的香港小學生, 竟然連you, we, I等也分不清. 她後來說, 一直以為窮孩子會特別勤力(我也這樣以為),原來他們無人理,無人教,一旦進度跟不上,就甚麼也不懂.而她理解到,在茶餐廳企足一日後,回到家根本無可能有心力教仔.
可以想像,如果節目沒有了有錢女這角色,由新移民阿媽講,在茶餐廳做足一日有幾幾幾辛苦,一般人的反應應該會是: 車,唔使做有得你食呀. 甚至乎:你做乜要落黎香港先?
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//Respectfully disagree. After they have experienced the rich's life for a few days, they will either gain the spirit to work hard to climb up the social ladder, or lose the will to work hard, and in extreme case, the will to live. In today’s society, I think the latter will outnumber the former.//
回覆刪除- My question was rhetorical. I would agree with what you said.
//Anyway, your quality blog entries make me a frequent visitor here. My compliments to you.//
- Thanks.
多謝大家的意見,這次我不一一回應了;大家說的都有點道理,就各取所需吧!
回覆刪除>RTHK 的窮富翁大作戰, 睇左幾集, 發覺的女真係揀得幾靚...
回覆刪除睇左一兩集,同個blog兩日,縱觀各人所言,發現我最認同嘅,都係亞sin生上面段話的最後一句……
CYC,
回覆刪除製作者就是要顧及willsin和你這樣的觀眾。
香港出現階級兩極化,貧者愈貧,富者愈富。這港台節日假設富人若能親身體驗窮人的生活便會對他們好一點。這假設很有問題。階級分化是一個制度的問題。只要懂得一些操控金融及地產市場的技倆,那些什麼誠哥及四叔便能在短短的一買一賣之間賺數百萬,數千萬或過億。另一些人勞勞碌碌地工作一輩子但仍然是在生與死之間爭扎。
回覆刪除什麼是社會制度的問題?一個較為明顯的例子是廢除種族隔離政策前的南非。南非白人政府通過一系列的政策及法例打壓黑人及扶殖白人特權階級。不少的白人出於社會公義投身黑人的抗爭運動。但更多的白人是既得利益者,他們亦不會因為體會過一兩天的被壓迫生活而大發善心要癈除種族歧視。南非變天是因為黑人的抗爭白人政府被打跨。
與其拍這些乞求有錢佬大發善心的節目,例不如拍一些勞動階層如何主動出擊,組織起來挑戰社會不公的節目。勞動者需要的是empowerment, 不是有錢佬的sympathy。
WKC
WKC,
回覆刪除//與其拍這些乞求有錢佬大發善心的節目,例不如拍一些勞動階層如何主動出擊,組織起來挑戰社會不公的節目。勞動者需要的是empowerment, 不是有錢佬的sympathy。//
- 這樣的一個節目恐怕不會吸引到多少觀眾。
"- 這樣的一個節目恐怕不會吸引到多少觀眾。"
回覆刪除可找些靚仔靚女吧?至少willsin 及 CYC 會看。
WKC
其實港台只係抄橋﹐不過此乃香港娛樂圈常見﹐見怪不怪
回覆刪除作為gimmick來睇﹐當娛樂片來睇﹐當另類版survivor睇﹐幾好
既可以將香港富二代包裝成晉惠帝﹐又賴係反映香港貧富懸殊問題﹐好開心的說
假若你睇到眼火爆﹐原因只不過係﹕港台拍完套騎呢野出來﹐仲要自吹自擂自己幫自己貼金而已...
不過﹐港臺同香港傳媒中意“幫自己黃袍加身”﹐都唔係第一日的事﹐你唔需要太認真
因為你一認真﹐你就輸了(笑)
文少,
回覆刪除//你唔需要太認真//
- 其實也不太認真。
//因為你一認真﹐你就輸了//
- 最近常見這句說話,不知出自何處?
What I feel sad about the RTHK programming is that they used to be able to do "straight", gimmick-free documentaries and yet still be assured of a sizeable audience who thirst for intelligent programming. But apparently now that is no longer the case. Or am I really looking back at the "good old days" with rose-tinted glasses?
回覆刪除But I mustn't be the only one who think this though, because I remember a blogpost by 學子 who used to describe documentaries as being a source of 電視清流: "不花巧、不誇張、實話實說,雖然難免有編者之主觀角度,但我已當它是清流了。" (from here: http://hongkongheaven.blogspot.com/2006/11/blog-post.html).
Of course, that was posted 5 years ago, so maybe what was once a clear spring in Hong Kong television has also suffered the perhaps inevitable fate of being muddied...
貧富差距不單是香港的問題。我記得好幾年前看過日本仔NHK拍過一些講日本國內的貧富差距(格差)的記錄片,卻集中拍生活在社會底層的人,講他們如何奮發掙札求存的日常生活(我記憶中這些主角雖不是俊男美女,但至少都是整整齊齊)。這種手法其實很普通簡單,但只要懂得取材懂得拍,都唔駛怕無少人看,無感染力,家陣叫埋啲皇帝同宮女走嚟扮農夫農婦,有些情節真是讓人感到哭笑不得。
回覆刪除講開口痕:很多電視節目也是利用人家的痛處來搞高收視,又或靠大家的同情心。《 窮富翁大作戰 》是否這樣,我沒看過不能評。無論那個節目才是一個觀眾(有「一」個觀「眾」嗎?)心目中的爛節目,要找出它帶來的一丁點好處,好容易。無論有多爛。
回覆刪除Snowdrops,
回覆刪除I feel sad, too. 我都記得港台制作過好多好正的documentary, 探討時事。
In the United States, there was a realty show in which a White family and an African American family swapped races using make-up (like the kind they use in movie for identity switch), supposedly, to improve interracial understanding. Of course, it failed miserably.
回覆刪除CYC,
回覆刪除//我記得好幾年前看過日本仔NHK拍過一些講日本國內的貧富差距(格差)的記錄片,卻集中拍生活在社會底層的人,講他們如何奮發掙札求存的日常生活//
- 我記得很多很多年前,鏗鏘集有過類似的報導。
shiren,
回覆刪除//無論那個節目才是一個觀眾(有「一」個觀「眾」嗎?)心目中的爛節目,要找出它帶來的一丁點好處,好容易。無論有多爛。//
- 正是。
lin,
回覆刪除//In the United States, there was a realty show in which a White family and an African American family swapped races using make-up (like the kind they use in movie for identity switch), supposedly, to improve interracial understanding. Of course, it failed miserably.//
- Yeah, I remember that; didn't see the show though.
//因為你一認真﹐你就輸了
回覆刪除最近常見這句說話,不知出自何處?//
此本為大陸網上用語﹐源於內地一本名叫《認真你就輸了》的愛情小說。
資料連結﹕
http://evchk.wikia.com/wiki/%E8%AA%8D%E7%9C%9F%E4%BD%A0%E5%B0%B1%E8%BC%B8%E4%BA%86
文少,
回覆刪除謝謝!
我是很期待看這節目的喔!
回覆刪除簡單有3點:
1.想將香港那些窮人的慘況多展示給其他港人睇,等無咁慘既要知足常樂,有錢人同d高官就唔該反省下.
2.真係想d參加者親身體驗之後,改變佢地想法,真係用心幫多d改變香港既社會架構,從而令香港不公同貧富懸殊既問題解救一下吧,就算參加者10個只有1個肯做,但以佢地有財有勢去做,總比我地呢d乜都無既去做更有效吧?
3.就算乜效用都無,至少睇到呢d含住金key出世既人涯苦受屈,都算可以過下引既..hehe...^^"
純純男子漢,
回覆刪除我看 3 才是大多數人「欣賞」這節目的地方。
讀了你的文章,不知何故,想起一個故事,說某人為贖世人的罪而死,而他是明知自己三天後會復活的。
回覆刪除對呀!怎麼我竟沒有這個聯想!
回覆刪除匿名提到...
回覆刪除“讀了你的文章,不知何故,想起一個故事,說某人為贖世人的罪而死,而他是明知自己三天後會復活的。 ”
哈!
Dr. Wong,
回覆刪除I have just watched watch it. The show is not that bad.
窮富翁大作戰II真人騷 田北辰變身掃街清潔工
http://programme.rthk.org.hk/rthk/tv/programme.php?name=tv/richmate2&d=2011-02-15&p=5007&e=130577&m=episode
Thanks, Matt.
回覆刪除田北辰:患貧窮 更患不義——我的掃街心路歷程 2011年2月11日
回覆刪除http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150136337407223&id=1253675486
從回應看來,他這做騷洗底似乎蠻成功哦。那個節目就這樣被他「騎劫」了。
Meshi,
回覆刪除文章是他寫的嗎?寫得不錯啊!
Wong,
回覆刪除我想他不用親自執筆,只要口述大意,自然有人給他寫得「好好睇睇」了。
Meshi,
回覆刪除應該是這樣了。