tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post466619215392402834..comments2024-03-22T08:04:05.869-07:00Comments on 魚之樂: 利器還是工具?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-38437131227839341082013-12-06T22:13:36.181-08:002013-12-06T22:13:36.181-08:00【刘小枫“国父”论,引起网友批评、愤慨】
http://club.kdnet.net/dispbbs...【刘小枫“国父”论,引起网友批评、愤慨】<br />http://club.kdnet.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=2&id=9213932Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-36447113750839534432013-12-06T21:28:29.878-08:002013-12-06T21:28:29.878-08:00謝謝!謝謝!W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-66373657764984071492013-12-06T21:09:52.671-08:002013-12-06T21:09:52.671-08:00絕對不是。我覺得「霸」往往都帶有多少霸道或欺凌他人的性質,我全然不覺得王Sir有絲毫霸道或欺凌別人的...絕對不是。我覺得「霸」往往都帶有多少霸道或欺凌他人的性質,我全然不覺得王Sir有絲毫霸道或欺凌別人的做法。<br />神洲http://gmue2008.mysinablog.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-73426789408683149382013-12-06T10:30:25.947-08:002013-12-06T10:30:25.947-08:00我也有點霸氣,希望不算是惡霸吧!我也有點霸氣,希望不算是惡霸吧!W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-81078725601748434722013-12-06T10:22:28.610-08:002013-12-06T10:22:28.610-08:00對,但這是另一個問題了。對,但這是另一個問題了。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-78467017847678704592013-12-06T10:17:18.426-08:002013-12-06T10:17:18.426-08:00"求勝還是求真"would be a good title tool. Thanks."求勝還是求真"would be a good title tool. Thanks.W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-30851485205639676982013-12-04T21:59:10.782-08:002013-12-04T21:59:10.782-08:00//有些人視......為利器,......非要對方折服不可,許勝不許敗,最好就是無敵。//
這些人...//有些人視......為利器,......非要對方折服不可,許勝不許敗,最好就是無敵。//<br />這些人似乎甚有「霸氣」,而有霸氣的人其實可能就是惡霸。<br />神洲http://gmue2008.mysinablog.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-52088636604270790572013-12-03T06:58:03.569-08:002013-12-03T06:58:03.569-08:00所謂牙尖嘴利人的說話已是一種利器可以害人傷人殺人!所謂牙尖嘴利人的說話已是一種利器可以害人傷人殺人!the inner spacehttp://mindnecessity.blogspot.de/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-43888047418266847652013-12-02T23:02:26.074-08:002013-12-02T23:02:26.074-08:00Dear Wong,
thanks for the link, read it, 利器 means...Dear Wong,<br /><br />thanks for the link, read it, 利器 means sharp weapon, efficient instrument, outstanding ability, 兵權, 傑出才能, <br />I think in your writing you 利器 is linked with 兵權, war and victory etc, <br />I would re- title your article " 求勝還是求真"<br />anyone it is a minor point, I wish more people will have a 求真 attitude.dr Who YH Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13643544326474516136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-60786109220857253082013-12-02T18:50:52.126-08:002013-12-02T18:50:52.126-08:00For the meanings of '利器', please take a lo...For the meanings of '利器', please take a look at this: <a href="http://cidian.xpcha.com/8c6698gnm1e.html" rel="nofollow">http://cidian.xpcha.com/8c6698gnm1e.html</a>W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-45483491585357102732013-12-02T18:19:20.145-08:002013-12-02T18:19:20.145-08:001 ) 利器 is sharp instrument, 工具 is tool, 利器 is a ki...1 ) 利器 is sharp instrument, 工具 is tool, 利器 is a kind of 工具, i do not see the logic you put them in opposition to each other. <br />2 ) i am a doctor, ,i use very sharp scalpel 利器 to cut , to dissect in order to heal, not to kill. doctors use "critical thinking, randomised controlled trial, statistical analysis etc", ( another example of mental 利器 / 工具) to examine effectiveness of medical / surgical treatment.<br />3 ) what matters is the intention of using 利器 / 工具, for self glory, fame, or seeking after truth.<br />thank you Mr Wong for your writings, i enjoy reading it and learn a lot from you.dr Who YH Applehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13643544326474516136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-47676317533648435792013-12-02T16:43:40.550-08:002013-12-02T16:43:40.550-08:00當然不是,這裏的讀者(尤其是常留言的)甚少令我覺得有這種態度。當然不是,這裏的讀者(尤其是常留言的)甚少令我覺得有這種態度。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-66383255976993737242013-12-02T16:42:03.923-08:002013-12-02T16:42:03.923-08:00殺殺破破的,也可以是批判思考的高手;那是態度和看法之別,應該不是能力的高低。殺殺破破的,也可以是批判思考的高手;那是態度和看法之別,應該不是能力的高低。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-61079606787339988222013-12-02T15:14:17.735-08:002013-12-02T15:14:17.735-08:00你前一篇所說的「所謂閉關,不過是停用臉書和不寫網誌,因為最近這兩項活動令我有點迷失的感覺,覺得是它們...你前一篇所說的「所謂閉關,不過是停用臉書和不寫網誌,因為最近這兩項活動令我有點迷失的感覺,覺得是它們牽著我走,而不是我主宰它們」,就是因為你覺得你的讀者都是以「個人利器觀」的態度來和你討論,而不是「共同工具觀」,所以你覺得有點迷失?TTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-32768894219986503002013-12-02T10:46:40.452-08:002013-12-02T10:46:40.452-08:00那會不會只是高手低手的境界問題?
低手的人,殺殺破破,都會好拙劣顯眼。而高手的人,通常懂得掩飾這些...那會不會只是高手低手的境界問題?<br /><br />低手的人,殺殺破破,都會好拙劣顯眼。而高手的人,通常懂得掩飾這些殺殺破破,裝成很優雅,很舒服,很對話。<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-61865283123077938332013-12-02T10:19:01.992-08:002013-12-02T10:19:01.992-08:00指出宗教謬見,可以抱的是尋求真理的心態,而非殺殺破破的爭勝之心,更不會是針對個人,羞辱對方,以顯自己...指出宗教謬見,可以抱的是尋求真理的心態,而非殺殺破破的爭勝之心,更不會是針對個人,羞辱對方,以顯自己高強。就算是高姿態地反宗教、破除宗教謬見絕不手軟的 Richard Dawkins,也不似有「以思考利器勝人」的心態。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-61447033030192144522013-12-02T10:12:12.681-08:002013-12-02T10:12:12.681-08:00對,同情地理解,便不會那麼容易形成敵我對立的姿態.對,同情地理解,便不會那麼容易形成敵我對立的姿態.W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-52293579886314340472013-12-02T10:09:11.265-08:002013-12-02T10:09:11.265-08:00//如果我用思考方法來防止受歪論誤導,落於下乘,目的在擊退、在防避,以免變成思考上的愚者。//
-...//如果我用思考方法來防止受歪論誤導,落於下乘,目的在擊退、在防避,以免變成思考上的愚者。//<br /><br />- 這是以思考方法來保護自己,無可厚非;這看法可稱為「個人護盾觀」。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-57935317131473641722013-12-02T09:32:25.313-08:002013-12-02T09:32:25.313-08:00如此一來,要用科學理性邏輯去「攻破」宗教謬見的人,豈不都落入殺殺破破的病態中?如此一來,要用科學理性邏輯去「攻破」宗教謬見的人,豈不都落入殺殺破破的病態中?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-20488105377875762482013-12-02T03:00:32.477-08:002013-12-02T03:00:32.477-08:00以前也有這種心態, (少時看李XX的書...)
但之後看到一些高手運用這些工具時,
有破...以前也有這種心態, (少時看李XX的書...) <br />但之後看到一些高手運用這些工具時,<br />有破有立,還會同情地理解對手,<br />自己漸漸改變了這種狹隘的觀感.<br /><br />yuiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-88021112286316823542013-12-02T00:45:23.694-08:002013-12-02T00:45:23.694-08:00如果我用思考方法來防止受歪論誤導,落於下乘,目的在擊退、在防避,以免變成思考上的愚者。目的雖與以思考...如果我用思考方法來防止受歪論誤導,落於下乘,目的在擊退、在防避,以免變成思考上的愚者。目的雖與以思考方法為劍為刀,遇神殺神、遇佛殺佛有所不同,但難免仍有上下強弱之心,這樣又如何呢?<br /><br />「共同工具觀」的想法可謂十分理想。若天下人都可以這樣講理,真理愈辯愈明,那麼門戶之見、黨同伐異的情況便不會這麼常見。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com