tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post5916202988323772497..comments2024-03-22T08:04:05.869-07:00Comments on 魚之樂: 永遠是甚麼?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-70708672573761673852010-07-08T23:37:57.363-07:002010-07-08T23:37:57.363-07:00Lin,
You have asked some very sensible questions,...Lin,<br /><br />You have asked some very sensible questions, none of which have simple answers. Frankly, I don't really know what love is.W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-38724002992404607612010-07-08T19:37:51.932-07:002010-07-08T19:37:51.932-07:00But what is "love" exactly? I'm not ...But what is "love" exactly? I'm not really asking this as a philosophical question, but a practical one. Even for two people who are deeply in love, there are circumstances (unemployment, chronic illness, etc) that make one feel like he or she can't "love" the partner anymore (there is even some degree of hatred towards the partner), but if the two of them make it through the situation, the feeling of "love" will probably come back. Does that mean the the love was really gone during the difficult time?<br /><br />Sometimes one chooses to stick with the partner even tough the partner has changed drastically for the worse in terms of personality, values, etc. Does one stay because of love? Or is it out of a sense of obligation? I think a lot of people can't figure that out in those situations. <br /><br />When one says "I love you forever" - what does "love" mean anyway? My version of "love" might be different from another person's. I think "I love you" mean different things for me at different stages of my life. I think when one's young, it's easier to say "I love you forever" and honestly mean it. I miss the 18, 19 years old me sometimes precisely because of the conviction I had about life at that point... I was so sure about everything!<br /><br />LinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-14770322010059670692010-07-08T09:43:43.852-07:002010-07-08T09:43:43.852-07:00Meshi,
//幻想自己跟一個美女通訊,感覺會比較好呢//
- 女生忽然變了美女,是進一步的幻...Meshi,<br /><br />//幻想自己跟一個美女通訊,感覺會比較好呢//<br /><br />- 女生忽然變了美女,是進一步的幻想了。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-23523695661022337742010-07-08T09:36:26.596-07:002010-07-08T09:36:26.596-07:00Wong,
//你褻瀆神呀!//
//又是Meshi的錯。//
我犯的錯真多呀!
不過有些人祈禱...Wong,<br /><br />//你褻瀆神呀!//<br />//又是Meshi的錯。//<br /><br />我犯的錯真多呀!<br />不過有些人祈禱,真的是「唸口王」,套一些「屬靈術語」,那才叫褻瀆神呢。<br /><br />//這可能只是他個人的幻想。//<br /><br />對呀,幻想自己跟一個美女通訊,感覺會比較好呢。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-34081655894027905122010-07-08T08:11:40.833-07:002010-07-08T08:11:40.833-07:00karol,
//再兜來兜去,我暈多幾暈,要叫白車。//
- 又是Meshi的錯。
//他憑甚...karol,<br /><br />//再兜來兜去,我暈多幾暈,要叫白車。//<br /><br />- 又是Meshi的錯。<br /><br />//他憑甚麽相信永遠是可行的呢?//<br /><br />- 這沒有一定呀,有些人可以盲目相信,又些人因為對自己有信心...<br /><br />//就如Meshi本着甚麽相信karol是(或不是)女生呢?//<br /><br />- 這可能只是他個人的幻想。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-32013947742993238192010-07-08T08:08:00.461-07:002010-07-08T08:08:00.461-07:00//"情侶相愛, 當所有激情過後, 隨之而來的了解和相知, 才是'愛'的開...//"情侶相愛, 當所有激情過後, 隨之而來的了解和相知, 才是'愛'的開始"//<br /><br />- 我相信激情也是愛的一部份。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-43222254013319648562010-07-08T08:06:44.821-07:002010-07-08T08:06:44.821-07:00Meshi,
//是口頭禪。//
你褻瀆神呀!Meshi,<br /><br />//是口頭禪。//<br /><br />你褻瀆神呀!W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-31255228985736792010-07-08T07:59:04.189-07:002010-07-08T07:59:04.189-07:00Mr Wong & Meshi,
你們舉的例子,我明白喇,再兜來兜去,我暈多幾暈,要叫白車...Mr Wong & Meshi,<br /><br />你們舉的例子,我明白喇,再兜來兜去,我暈多幾暈,要叫白車。<br /><br />我還有問題:說「永遠」的人,除非當口頭襌,否則該相信永遠是可行的,才有此承諾,但,他憑甚麽相信永遠是可行的呢?就如Meshi本着甚麽相信karol是(或不是)女生呢?karolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-19184642345943470282010-07-08T06:13:15.597-07:002010-07-08T06:13:15.597-07:00送過一本教拍拖的書比朋友, "lup" 過幾眼
有一句很中意, "情侶...送過一本教拍拖的書比朋友, "lup" 過幾眼<br />有一句很中意, "情侶相愛, 當所有激情過後, 隨之而來的了解和相知, 才是'愛'的開始"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-35327247177085317192010-07-08T03:05:44.965-07:002010-07-08T03:05:44.965-07:00Wong,
//那麼,說「直到永遠,阿門」又如何? //
是口頭禪。
karol,
//我頭...Wong,<br /><br />//那麼,說「直到永遠,阿門」又如何? //<br /><br />是口頭禪。<br /><br />karol,<br /><br />//我頭暈喇。//<br /><br />不怕,代入實例就行:<br /><br />如果我相信karol是女生,因而說karol是女生,但實際karol不是女生,那麼我是弄錯,卻不是說謊;<br />如果我不信karol是女生,卻說karol是女生,並且想讓人相信karol是女生,那就是說謊。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-32043954593353010372010-07-08T00:46:42.362-07:002010-07-08T00:46:42.362-07:00Willsin,
2和3涉及personal identity,比較複雜。Willsin,<br /><br />2和3涉及personal identity,比較複雜。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-83704782260169940062010-07-08T00:22:51.813-07:002010-07-08T00:22:51.813-07:00最近其實準備寫篇有關婚外情的文(中文).剛好也看到類似的論點.
1. 愛/感情不是一些人可以用意志...最近其實準備寫篇有關婚外情的文(中文).剛好也看到類似的論點.<br /><br />1. 愛/感情不是一些人可以用意志來控制的東西. 答應人愛佢一世其實是答應人一些自己做不到的事情.<br /><br />2. Parfit認為長期的承諾本身沒有道德內涵可言, 因為人會在這段時間(例如五十年)內經歷很多轉變. 這種承諾有點像答應人另一個人會做一些甚麼. <br /><br />3. 其實答應人的人與對方兩個都會經歷好多轉變. 你只是答應左之前的另一個人一些甚麼, 不代表你要對現在這個可能十分不同的人負些甚麼責任.<br /><br />(Source: Susan Mendus "Marital Faithfulness")willsinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13511522581504937498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-36647508019077851402010-07-07T23:29:24.957-07:002010-07-07T23:29:24.957-07:00karol,
就是怕你頭暈,我才用實例而不用抽象的說法,誰知Meshi...karol,<br /><br />就是怕你頭暈,我才用實例而不用抽象的說法,誰知Meshi...W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-9872221425209164252010-07-07T23:06:21.147-07:002010-07-07T23:06:21.147-07:00Meshi,
我頭暈喇。(不過你其實講得好清楚)Meshi,<br /><br />我頭暈喇。(不過你其實講得好清楚)karolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-39513213770460976512010-07-07T22:52:48.549-07:002010-07-07T22:52:48.549-07:00如您友人提到 …
"如果給予您承諾的人已經不存在,永遠/永恆還有何意義?"
回...如您友人提到 …<br />"如果給予您承諾的人已經不存在,永遠/永恆還有何意義?"<br /><br />回贈-catcat特別喜歡的- 張學友的愛是永恆<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCgOt58fDss&feature=relatedcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03227326421156941404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-28527244036156662202010-07-07T21:00:58.657-07:002010-07-07T21:00:58.657-07:00那麼,說「直到永遠,阿門」又如何?那麼,說「直到永遠,阿門」又如何?W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-780099923912643342010-07-07T20:47:02.862-07:002010-07-07T20:47:02.862-07:00“Meshi 提到...
Wong,
永遠不要說永遠,也許是永遠的真理吧。”
有理...“Meshi 提到...<br /> Wong,<br /> 永遠不要說永遠,也許是永遠的真理吧。”<br /><br />有理。西諺有云,“Never say 'never'”,又云“Never is a long word”,頗可借鑒。Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05040137496675730377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-45739796303528015732010-07-07T20:12:46.752-07:002010-07-07T20:12:46.752-07:00Wong,
永遠不要說永遠,也許是永遠的真理吧。
karol,
//謊言的本質,不會因為信與不...Wong,<br /><br />永遠不要說永遠,也許是永遠的真理吧。<br /><br />karol,<br /><br />//謊言的本質,不會因為信與不信而改變//<br /><br />如果你相信某句是真,因而說某句是真,但實際是假,那麼你是弄錯,卻不是說謊;<br />如果你不信某句是真,卻說某句是真,並且想讓人相信某句是真,那就是說謊。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-77673454935818885582010-07-07T20:11:57.100-07:002010-07-07T20:11:57.100-07:00karol,
吸毒那例子與說謊無關。假如我誤以為自己有五呎十寸高,其實只有五呎九(老了縮水而不自知...karol,<br /><br />吸毒那例子與說謊無關。假如我誤以為自己有五呎十寸高,其實只有五呎九(老了縮水而不自知);你問我有多高,我答五呎十,算是說謊嗎?W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-2271000104677121882010-07-07T19:54:02.643-07:002010-07-07T19:54:02.643-07:00「如果說的人自己也信以為真」--謊言的本質,不會因為信與不信而改變,而且信與不信,受你的認知影響,難...「如果說的人自己也信以為真」--謊言的本質,不會因為信與不信而改變,而且信與不信,受你的認知影響,難道你在不知吸毒有害的情況下吸毒,毒品就算無害?karolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-89414454656991502602010-07-07T17:52:08.481-07:002010-07-07T17:52:08.481-07:00karol,
如果說的人自己也信以為真,那便不算是謊言吧。karol,<br /><br />如果說的人自己也信以為真,那便不算是謊言吧。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-55497488003885457282010-07-07T17:43:42.410-07:002010-07-07T17:43:42.410-07:00第一個說「永遠」的人是誰呢?真係普世謊言。
見於香港最近的政改,好多人相信民主黨永遠追求真普選,誰...第一個說「永遠」的人是誰呢?真係普世謊言。<br /><br />見於香港最近的政改,好多人相信民主黨永遠追求真普選,誰知忽然「轉軚」,傷盡人心,並聲言永不再投他們一票。(按:我不認為民主黨轉軚。)<br /><br />雖然有人對你說永遠什麽什麽,但你盲目地相信,自己也有錯。karolnoreply@blogger.com