tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post2019539577684386004..comments2024-03-22T08:04:05.869-07:00Comments on 魚之樂: 求異不求同Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-44390759042162302812011-02-08T23:13:36.181-08:002011-02-08T23:13:36.181-08:00Snowdrops,
Thanks for sharing. It's never to...Snowdrops, <br /><br />Thanks for sharing. It's never too late.W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-54706386704297559622011-02-08T15:06:02.624-08:002011-02-08T15:06:02.624-08:00Oh, I'm coming to this conversation extremely ...Oh, I'm coming to this conversation extremely late... <br /><br />Anyway, Wong, I hope you don't mind, but I would like to complete your sentence: "假如你在北愛爾蘭出世,那麼….."<br /><br />If you're born in Northern Ireland, you will automatically be counted as one of two major religious tribes: "Protestants (i.e. Unionists)" and "Catholics (i.e. Nationalists)". The fact that the two different denominations of Christianity have been co-opted as representing distinct brands of political ideologies in Northern Ireland is what helped me realise the futility of organised religion as a moral framework, even though I myself was brought up as a Christian!<br /><br />"世界唔和平都系宗教的導致。" Absolutely agree! <br /><br />"「我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經、唔係嚟追女仔、成日祈禱、對人和善、成日幫助人、愛仇敵...。」"<br /><br />For Irish people, after all the paedophilic scandals that beset the Catholic Church in recent years, many parents continue to fake their devotion to the Church in order to get their children into good Catholic schools. So they attend Church service and get involved in religious fundraising etc. etc. in order to get the local priest look kindly upon their children's applications to a good local school. In private they have no qualms owning up to the fact that they would have been lapsed Catholics if not for their kids. <br /><br />Oh, and I agree that discussing the concept of equifinality with committed Christians is just asking for trouble :P<br /><br />p.s. I hope I haven't exceeded Catcat's length in this comment!Snowdropshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15962700356638572864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-14050762560969361692010-06-25T08:56:36.161-07:002010-06-25T08:56:36.161-07:00大家信唔信呢個世界上有鬼,如果有,會否有好壞之分?
or有冇撞鬼經歷?大家信唔信呢個世界上有鬼,如果有,會否有好壞之分?<br />or有冇撞鬼經歷?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-33737104100556673272010-06-15T06:54:17.804-07:002010-06-15T06:54:17.804-07:00英雄公主娘,
你應該估到,我係同意你所講嘅。英雄公主娘,<br /><br />你應該估到,我係同意你所講嘅。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-69866944982350246282010-06-15T03:49:05.085-07:002010-06-15T03:49:05.085-07:00救?問題在我無事,點救?
我唔覺得人家覺得我有需要被救而我都要覺得我被救,
最離譜系夾硬話我有需要被...救?問題在我無事,點救?<br />我唔覺得人家覺得我有需要被救而我都要覺得我被救,<br />最離譜系夾硬話我有需要被救<br />因為朋友怕我死後會落地獄……地獄系乜(等於博主某篇所言)<br />點解我要擔心死後我自己會點,<br />不如我留D精力擔心我死後我家人會點好過啦。(我系好現實,好實際)<br />講真話可能人家唔信,講大話可能人家會信。<br />系咪等於好多人信的就系真理。<br />等於一個成功的廣告令好多人買果個產品,系咪等於個產品一定系好的產品呢?英雄公主娘http://www.romaskogkatt.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-54818929254884735312010-06-14T21:33:20.908-07:002010-06-14T21:33:20.908-07:00That's interesting information. Thanks.That's interesting information. Thanks.W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-52641721654829855042010-06-14T20:42:16.333-07:002010-06-14T20:42:16.333-07:00Check this out about the sociological works on rel...Check this out about the sociological works on religious economy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_religious_economy <br /><br />Sociologist Rodney Stark's work is pretty interesting to read even if you don't agree with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-42126698796179999752010-06-14T12:08:30.344-07:002010-06-14T12:08:30.344-07:00英雄公主娘,
你朋友都係救你心切啫。英雄公主娘,<br /><br />你朋友都係救你心切啫。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-63929070401143205192010-06-14T10:13:18.344-07:002010-06-14T10:13:18.344-07:00噢,我都話我唔系讀哲學。 用市場學觀點睇睇 jee,
宗教基本上可以將所有市場學的理論放得入!
唔好...噢,我都話我唔系讀哲學。 用市場學觀點睇睇 jee,<br />宗教基本上可以將所有市場學的理論放得入!<br />唔好講最原本系點,睇今時今日的教派。<br />邊個唔系盆滿缽滿?<br />宗教可以令人發動戰爭,香港搞到染指政治。<br />世界唔和平都系宗教的導致。<br />我個人最怕基督教宣道,<br />我連幾十年朋友都因為同我宣導而搞到反面。<br />簡直系唔尊重聽方的意願。英雄公主娘http://www.romaskogkatt.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-52005174466778374422010-06-07T20:52:47.417-07:002010-06-07T20:52:47.417-07:00Wong,
你說得對。而我覺得,兩者分析都不到位Wong,<br /><br />你說得對。而我覺得,兩者分析都不到位CYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-81172271511414636752010-06-07T16:52:56.036-07:002010-06-07T16:52:56.036-07:00CYC,
//但好像很少去這樣去分析無神論者。//
我聽過不少基督徒分析無神論者的心理背景。CYC,<br /><br />//但好像很少去這樣去分析無神論者。//<br /><br />我聽過不少基督徒分析無神論者的心理背景。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-31605599495588116072010-06-07T07:54:52.903-07:002010-06-07T07:54:52.903-07:00我上面想說的是,很多人會分析一個人信仰某一宗教的(文化/心理/生活)背景,並覺得這理所當然。但好像很...我上面想說的是,很多人會分析一個人信仰某一宗教的(文化/心理/生活)背景,並覺得這理所當然。但好像很少去這樣去分析無神論者。(好像還有哲學裏各種isms?)。<br /><br />雖然這些都同樣是形而上學的選擇。CYCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-10180517174950471832010-06-06T22:34:25.515-07:002010-06-06T22:34:25.515-07:00Meshi,
//來個耶佛共參//
如果是耶魯哈佛,我的興趣會大點。Meshi,<br /><br />//來個耶佛共參//<br /><br />如果是耶魯哈佛,我的興趣會大點。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-25183201699160658122010-06-06T22:33:01.450-07:002010-06-06T22:33:01.450-07:00Yan,
咁就似樣啲。Yan,<br /><br />咁就似樣啲。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-11547702854643412622010-06-06T22:25:14.909-07:002010-06-06T22:25:14.909-07:00Wong,
How about this:
「我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經、唔係嚟追女仔、成日祈...Wong,<br /><br />How about this:<br /><br />「我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經、唔係嚟追女仔、成日祈禱、對人和善、成日幫助人、愛仇敵...。」Yanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543452661425487649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-80721007651348710752010-06-06T22:22:09.089-07:002010-06-06T22:22:09.089-07:00Yan,
取決於緣嘛!或者時機成熟,王生就會像一行禪師一樣,生生基督世世佛,來個耶佛共參呢。Yan,<br /><br />取決於緣嘛!或者時機成熟,王生就會像一行禪師一樣,生生基督世世佛,來個耶佛共參呢。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-9098874154418720902010-06-06T22:19:09.775-07:002010-06-06T22:19:09.775-07:00Yan,
//我覺得你應該反其道而行之,去感化阿 Wong。不要輕易改信啊。//
感化你可能易啲...Yan,<br /><br />//我覺得你應該反其道而行之,去感化阿 Wong。不要輕易改信啊。//<br /><br />感化你可能易啲。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-70026300181317397432010-06-06T22:18:00.356-07:002010-06-06T22:18:00.356-07:00Meshi,
//我是初中時老早給「荼毒」了//
唉,這種毒越早中越難解...
//一個人信甚...Meshi,<br /><br />//我是初中時老早給「荼毒」了//<br /><br />唉,這種毒越早中越難解...<br /><br />//一個人信甚麼不信甚麼,往往取決於緣。我與基督教是比較有緣的。//<br /><br />「緣」是佛教觀念呀,你真是宗教雜炒了。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-6677789972091854412010-06-06T22:14:56.630-07:002010-06-06T22:14:56.630-07:00Yan,
//「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我返基督教會、守聖餐...Yan,<br /><br />//「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經、 ....。」//<br /><br />但你也可以說:「我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經....,不過我唔係基督徒;我係嚟追女仔嘅咋。」W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-2680874504599650722010-06-06T21:45:19.446-07:002010-06-06T21:45:19.446-07:00Meshi,
我覺得你應該反其道而行之,去感化阿 Wong。不要輕易改信啊。Meshi,<br /><br />我覺得你應該反其道而行之,去感化阿 Wong。不要輕易改信啊。Yanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543452661425487649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-53979701996438807572010-06-06T20:47:51.622-07:002010-06-06T20:47:51.622-07:00Wong,
//瞎子摸象,不知道自己摸的是象,怎麼你就知道你的信仰是真理的一部份?//
對,也有可...Wong,<br /><br />//瞎子摸象,不知道自己摸的是象,怎麼你就知道你的信仰是真理的一部份?//<br />對,也有可能我摸的不是象。怎麼知道我的信仰是真理的一部份?我還在探索之中。我是初中時老早給「荼毒」了,近年才慢慢探索有沒有理性根據,也不排除有一天會放棄基督徒的身份。這些誰也說不準。<br /><br />我同意宗教信仰取決於環境因素的,或者用佛教色彩的說法,一個人信甚麼不信甚麼,往往取決於緣。我與基督教是比較有緣的。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-71626490128849026052010-06-06T20:24:54.447-07:002010-06-06T20:24:54.447-07:00//「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我相信 ....。」
我想以下...//「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我相信 ....。」<br /><br />我想以下的說法也可以:<br /><br />「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我返基督教會、守聖餐、睇聖經、 ....。」Yanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543452661425487649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-8937226814160227472010-06-06T19:45:12.762-07:002010-06-06T19:45:12.762-07:00Meshi,
我不覺得你為拗而拗。那些不信基督為世人贖罪的「自由派」至少要相信某一些基督教教義,才...Meshi,<br /><br />我不覺得你為拗而拗。那些不信基督為世人贖罪的「自由派」至少要相信某一些基督教教義,才有理由稱自己為基督徒;換句話說,他們要完成以下句子:「我是基督徒而不是回教徒、佛教徒、猶太教徒、印度教徒等等,是因為我相信 ....。」<br /><br />瞎子摸象,不知道自己摸的是象,怎麼你就知道你的信仰是真理的一部份?W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-65890873314132203862010-06-06T19:24:20.634-07:002010-06-06T19:24:20.634-07:00Wong,
希望你不會覺得是為拗而拗,不過「自由派」當中,不信基督替世人贖罪的大有人在。他們認為耶...Wong,<br /><br />希望你不會覺得是為拗而拗,不過「自由派」當中,不信基督替世人贖罪的大有人在。他們認為耶穌是作了一個很好的道德榜樣之類(其實早在十二世紀已經有這樣的看法)。<br /><br />小弟說不上是「自由派」,不過相信普救論,其核心信仰當然也包括「基督替(所有信也好、不信也好的)世人贖罪」。但同時我相信我接受的「真理」,不過像瞎子摸象的其中一個瞎子一樣,摸到的可能是大象的一部分,是真的,卻不是全面的;另一些宗教徒,摸到的可能是大象的另一部分。我沒有必要因為我摸到的是大象腿,就否定別人摸到的大象耳朵;兩者其實並非矛盾。Meshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656065273291410573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4010478591191633760.post-83356806232886582382010-06-06T09:16:24.003-07:002010-06-06T09:16:24.003-07:00Meshi,
無論你多自由派,只要你仍是基督徒,你就不能完全摒棄基督教的教義,你至少要相信基督替世...Meshi,<br /><br />無論你多自由派,只要你仍是基督徒,你就不能完全摒棄基督教的教義,你至少要相信基督替世人贖罪,視這為核心真理,而不只是「終極實在的一鱗半爪」。否則,你只是個deist,不是Christian。W. Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07161244576570372004noreply@blogger.com